Why We Occupy

Occupants of Calgary, of Canada, of the world, this is our offering to you.

We have come united as autonomous participants of the occupation of Calgary — in solidarity with the multitude of international occupy movements, and with deep respect to the indigenous lands on which we stand — to create the conditions necessary to give birth, incubate and bring into the public eye a conversation. A conversation that is essential in awakening Canadians to the storm that encircles us all, and realizing our potential for a better world. We are intimately linked to the crises manifesting both home and abroad, and out of apathy or lack of awareness we have failed to responsibly address this for far too long.

We, Occupy Calgary, want change.

We want a Canada that is not looking down the barrel of the same economic rifle that has already fired on the United States. Where the fiat currency with which we currently operate — a currency with a value based solely upon government regulation and law — and the fractional reserve banking system through which it operates, where the required reserves are defined as “nil” by the Bank of Canada Act section 457 (4), are brought to an end. Where the Canadian government is no longer allowed to borrow from Chartered banks money those banks don‘t actually have, and where the majority of our taxes are no longer used to pay for the interest accrued on
those loans, but are used to fund services that better our quality of life. Where our currency is based on tangibilities, not on illusory abstractions
monopolized upon by greed within corrupt system.

We want an Alberta that grows its wheat, raises its cattle, cuts its timber and pumps its oil in a manner that is sustainable and to the benefit of the land and to every person, not to the benefit of corporations abroad. Where the debt per capita does not double in the next decade, as it had in the past ten years. Where we are no longer blocked by red tape — created in the interests of corporate monopolization— from exploring and utilizing sustainable alternative sources of energy and methods of resource extraction. We want an accountable government — one that understands that there are consequences to its actions. A government whose intentions are to progress human welfare, not to seek profit or international prestige. We want an end to a system that allows political parties to be corrupted by the tens of thousands of millions of dollars given publicly and secretly by corporations as campaign donations every election. Where wealthy few no longer hold power over our government. Where politicians can no longer obtain sweeping power through just 24 percent of eligible voters, as our present Conservative majority has done. Where economic power cannot buy political power. Where every single person is given the democratic representation they deserve, not representation based on mob rule of the majority, wealth, status or connection.

We want a government that is transparent. Where senators and Supreme Court judges are democratically elected not appointed. Where there are no closed doors. Where empathy is the official policy both home and abroad, taking seriously the duty of international amnesty, not furthering global conflicts. We want to see a justice system that is not based on punishment and revenge, as the Conservative government is presently reinforcing, but is based on principles of restoration. Where no law can be legislated that shall deny us our human dignity or capacity for radical
self-governance.

We want a healthcare system based on healing, not on the perpetuation of illness for the sake capital gain.

We want a Canada where the voice of the indigenous peoples — on whose land we occupy — are no longer ignored; rather they are given the dignity, respect, and acknowledgement they deserve. Where we respect the many ways of knowing.

We want a government, society, culture and economy that thrive in their connection to the land we live with. Where we no longer exploit our resources in an unsustainable fashion but respect them for the lifeblood they are. Where we respect sacred geography. Where our food and water-supply is no longer poisoned by corporate profit-seeking and monopolization. Where mono-cropping is a thing of the past and we respect the boundaries of nature and all things within it. Where we no longer trample entire ecosystems. Where our system of exchange no longer embodies
the logic of a cancer cell.

We want a media that delivers information honestly, no longer filtering it through the lens of corporate or political agendas.

We want a society and culture that encourages relationships that result less frequently in divorce, as 70,000do in Canada every year. Where our communities are no longer under the constant threat of fragmentation. Where people are not condemned to the streets because they had nowhere else to go.

We want to cultivate in our brothers, sisters and most importantly in our children, the power of creativity, curiosity and forward thinking. We want a world where housing, healthcare and education are universal human rights, and nobody goes hungry.

We are at a pivotal point in time as species embedded within a living planet. Collectively we are facing the mass extinction of ecological life and of the multitude of cultures that once diversified the globe. It is in the face of this crisis that we are opening our eyes to our vast potential and interconnectedness to one another and to the planet. We are awakening to a self-awareness — long termed enlightenment — that can now be recognized as a universal human capability at this possible turning point in our history.

As technology enables an instant connection to each other and to information, we have begun to evolve out of an obsolete paradigm and into an integral understanding of the universality that exists across humanity’s vast story of cosmologies and cultures. A recognition that redefines our connections to each other into a new paradigm of inclusiveness — where mutual humanity transcends the archaic values that judged on the basis of race, religion, sexual orientation another facets of who we are, which were now coming to see are reason for celebration.

We are here to give birth to a system that reflects the human values of compassion and mutual development within and without. The established values of seeking profit above all else, at the sake of not only the resources and integrity of our planet, but also the integrity of our bodies and our communities are outdated and unwanted. We want a world of co-independent communities and not the metropolis of consumption that is devouring the essential human spirit.

We are autonomous people participating in Occupy Calgary. This has been our offering to you. We invite you join in this conversation.

[E.L., J.J., R.W., et al.]

37 Responses to “Why We Occupy”

  1. drew peacock October 17, 2012 at 3:45 pm #

    Is daniel tosh gay
    Montgomery triangle is awesome!

  2. drew peacock October 8, 2012 at 1:14 pm #

    Montgomery triangle is awesome!!

  3. Lucky Charms May 26, 2012 at 10:16 am #

    Have not heard much about Occupy lately–what is new??

    Montgomery triangle is still awesome and Montgomery is only becoming more awesome!!

  4. Mario Phorng February 8, 2012 at 5:17 pm #

    Really good article. Keep up the very wonderful performance.

  5. Jaquelyn Liaw January 17, 2012 at 1:57 pm #

    Awesome writing style!

  6. Warren Wilkinson January 12, 2012 at 2:18 pm #

    Hi, I didn’t know too much about the Occupy movements, but I was impressed when you mentioned Fiat currency. Do all the occupiers share this pet peeve? In anycase, you mention a lot of wants. These aren’t new ‘wants’, everybody on the planet has a wish list that’s similar.

    If you’re still looking at ‘How’ have you read what the Libertarians are saying? Briefly, here is how I would achieve those goals (the long form is here: http://www.ruwart.com/Healing/):

    1) Economics — Private banks (Free Banking). No offical ‘legal tender’. Taxes are payable in a few recognized currencies (ie, us dollars, euros, yen, CAD, etc).
    Abolish the central bank & lender of last resort provisions. Prohibit government bail-outs of any kind, for any reason.

    2) Land use — Abolish crown land. Sell off land so private ‘land stewardship’ groups are not locked out. (Government crown land is often leased behind closed doors to developers who abuse the crap out of it and pay political favors)

    3) Legal – Private courts — individuals who enter into contract specify which private court will be used to settle their dispute.

    4) Health Care — Private health care.

    5) Native Rights — Restoring lands is impossible, how would we resolve which of the many tribes gets which lands? How would the natives pay for the improvements seized from current owners?
    No land changes.

    6) Tort Law: Strong recognition of easement rights will make polluters pay.

    7) Free Speech, Free Press. All free speech is protected. Abolish all censors.

    8) Marriage: Government no longer recognizes marriages of any kind (no economic/political benefits or penalty to the arrangement)

    9) Education: Private education.

  7. captain syphilis December 13, 2011 at 6:00 pm #

    Montgomery triangle is awesome!

    • idnami December 13, 2011 at 6:50 pm #

      Argh!!!

  8. Curious December 8, 2011 at 12:54 pm #

    I am curious to know what the actual plan of action is in order to initiate and foster this change that you speak of. From reading the post above, the only thing I understand is that there is a lot of “we want” happening. What are you actually doing to get anything done? As far as I can tell, sitting in a park isn’t really all that helpful and it certainly isn’t gaining you any sympathizers. I think people would be more apt to listen or get on board with supporting your cause if there was a clear cut course of action that was being taken.

    Furthermore, having read the Occupy Canada’s list of “demands” many of the points contradict one another. Having a clear voice, a clear message, other than just demanding would be helpful to understanding your cause.

    • idnami December 8, 2011 at 4:35 pm #

      Hey there. We are working out the plan of action every day. It’s not gonna happen overnight, that’s for sure.
      For me the primary focus is starting with small changes to my own life and habits and working up from there. A politician friend of mine recently advised me that the best way to influence government is to develop personal relationships with members of government whenever possible. People listen more to people they know personally. Makes sense to me. So with that in mind I might be volunteering in an upcoming election campaign. A lot of us are just getting started with things like this so give it time. Obviously we can’t just do away with fractional reserve currency, for example, without having a workable alternative. Do I know what the alternative is? Not a clue. But it’s one of the things I’m researching.
      You don’t have to know the solution to talk about the problem. We know cancer is a problem but we don’t know how to cure it yet, right? But I’m thinking no one blamed the scientists for not finding the cure in the first 2 months of research.

  9. Anonymous November 30, 2011 at 12:51 pm #

    baby steps my people baby steps are needed evyrything starts small so a small change is more manageable then a big one if we take closely monitored steps towards breaking up bad morales and dishonesty in our monetary system we wont have to make everyone equal there will always be those people who are lazy and want to get rich sitting on their asses lets just make our society alot harder to take advantage of because at this point the people in charge are raping our country and its peoples rights to fucking death

  10. Jimmy November 27, 2011 at 11:53 am #

    I really like what you are saying, and am glad I found your website. Please keep it up.

    • idnami November 27, 2011 at 1:26 pm #

      Thanks Jimmy! We will keep it up if you promise to keep reading!

  11. Mooostafa November 19, 2011 at 12:53 pm #

    A society which is efficient for a few but grossly inequitable for many is not sustainable. It is not anti-business or Un-Canadian to be humanist. A fair society is one which does not penalize success but it is also one that does not impede the progress of a majority of its citizens to fortify the extreme gluttony of a few. Civility, equity and compassion for your fellow citizen are not Un-Canadian ideals

    Montgomery triangle is awesome!

    • idnami November 19, 2011 at 1:06 pm #

      Ok. So after reading several references to the awesome Montgomery triangle I googled it… Ok. I don’t get the relevance here. Can someone explain?

  12. Dee November 18, 2011 at 9:04 pm #

    This movement is borne on the backs of those that actually work for a living and pay taxes. This movement is relying on the very system that it is protesting against. It is an eye sore, a public safety hazard and an ineffective attempt to create change. If you want to change the way things are with support from the general public, squatting on public property is probably not a good place to start.

    • idnami November 18, 2011 at 9:19 pm #

      Just curious Dee, did you actually read the post above? Or anything else on this blog?

  13. Kenzie Love November 14, 2011 at 9:58 pm #

    As far as I can tell, no one has commented on the one proposal here I vehemently disagree with, making Supreme Court justices “democratically elected.” There’s not much detail on this point, but that’s a terrible idea. I don’t believe any other country does this, for good reasons.

    In the U.S., where many judges are elected, the predictable result is that many if not most judges campaign on a “tough on crime” platform, which I suspect most members of the Occupy movement would disagree with. No doubt there are some exceptions, but I can’t conceive of any system for electing judges in which this wouldn’t be a problem. Most people — and I fully include myself in this — lack the knowledge to assess what makes a good judge, so pledges to be tough on crime attract more votes than… well I really don’t know if judges there campaign for anything else (there are openly “pro-prosecution” judges but few or no judges boast about being “pro-defense”).

    Judges sometimes make decisions we disagree with, and some of these may be objectively wrong. But at least in Canada their decisions are based on the law, and I’d certainly rather have this system than one in which public opinion is the determining factor.

    • idnami November 18, 2011 at 9:16 pm #

      Hi Kenzie, thanks for reading! i think you make a good point, actually. Though I’m personally not knowledgable enough on that subject to comment much I’d say you are probably right.
      The post above was the work of a few people attempting to clarify what this thing is all about. It isn’t a mission statement exactly, though many of us look at it as a good starting point. I think we all agree that it could probably use some tweaking.
      Were there any ideas in it that you felt you especially did agree with? Any that you’re on the fence about and might recommend changes to?

  14. Anonymous November 13, 2011 at 5:59 pm #

    so the question i have to ask is are you pushing for communism? i understand trying to make the government accountable for their actions, but if you try to lessen the gap between the rich and the poor, aren’t you in fact trying to use a communist approach? some people work hard and away from home in the oilsands to earn more than an average wage to provide for themselves and thier familys. are you suggesting we take away that increase in pay so that everyone can be equal? capatilism is what drives people to become better and work harder. if you make everyone work for the good of the country people are going to stop working and start relying on everyone else to make their life better. if everyone is equal then no one wins…

    • idnami November 13, 2011 at 7:43 pm #

      I can only speak for myself when I say, I don’t think communism is the answer. But rampant, greed driven capitalism isn’t either. The more I read about the economic structure the more it scares me. Our currency system is based on an imaginary value which mathematically guarantees debt default and bankruptcy to some. A good breakdown of how it works is here: http://mindprod.com/money/moneycreation.html
      Then there is the way that the investment market can steal from you and get away with it and and does so all the time: http://web.me.com/lelford/breachoftrust.ca/Welcome.html Also see the video in Is You Retirement Investment Safe? on this blog.
      Then there is the recent study in Zurich by complex systems analyst that uncovered the 147 companies that own more than half of everything. http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21228354.500-revealed–the-capitalist-network-that-runs-the-world.html

      This guy: http://www.leadingtrader.com/09/global-recession-why-i-pray-for-another-recession/ said in an interview with the BBC that Goldman Sachs rules the world. Check out the link above and see who is the biggest player in the 147.

      The fact is that we are influenced in every way to serve a system that is designed to benefit a very few. I’m not mad that my friend Dave who is an oil field safety inspector makes 4 times what I do. The guy works hard and makes a lot of sacrifices to make a living. However his income is chump change compared to the company CEOs who cheated and stole to get what they have. Those are the people that I have a problem with.

      I also have a problem with popular complicity with this corruption. We are encouraged to buy stuff we don’t need with money we don’t have and greed is glamorized in our culture. We have enough glittering distractions in front of us that we can ignore the poisoned water and forests scarred beyond restoration and the fact that we are working harder and making less, spending more and receiving less. And with 147 companies who do not care about you running the entire media, you’re not seeing what you need to know.

      It all sound like paranoid conspiracy theory stuff doesn’t it? Don’t dismiss it because of that. I laughed that that kind of thinking not long ago myself. But we know power corrupts, and that a certain level of financial power no one can touch you, or Wall Street would be paying the price for what they did to the global economy in 2008. Those same criminals are calling the shots in the world economy right now.

      The mistaken impression people tend to have of Occupy is that we have some kind of agenda or answers but how could we? We are an alarm call. We are begging people to see what is going on in the world and join us in demanding the power be returned to the people, that our governments not be run by corporate interests. This isn’t about some kind of handout to a small group of unfortunates. The poor don’t have far to fall when the real crash happens. The middle class will become the new poor. And the rich will be powerful enough to always keep it that way until we rise up together against it.

  15. Anonymous November 11, 2011 at 7:51 pm #

    I wanted to find out more about what the occupy movement is all about so I decided to visit the website.

    By how “why we occupy” is wriiten, the author(s) is obviously educated. It’s too bad that the author does not surround his or herself with people that might actually help the Occupy movement and instead chooses to pitch tents and damage public property with people that are not the pillars of society.

    Nicole RunningRabbit’s “decolonize your mind” is a perfect example of aboriginal rhetoric and perfectly illustrates why the vast majority of people do not take you seriously. I am deeply offended that Nicole RunningRabbit has the audacity to suggest that canadian aboriginals are victims of genocide as a result of social and financial injustice. Genocide? Is she serious?

    Residents of the Siksika reserve are provided with more opportunities and social programs to help them succeed then I could ever dream of in my lifetime. Wake up, Ms. RunningRabbit. If all you do is sit around and complain about your quality of life while at the same time are content to rely on the system to provide you with your next handout, all you are is all you will ever be. Take control of your life, leave the rez and get out there and earn the quality of life you resent other people for having!!!

    Unfortunately, the “woe is me” attitude articulated by Nicole RunningRabbit decpicts exactly the kind of people that I would expect to see freezing in their tents down at Olympic Plaza. Filthy, disheveled people that have the stereotypical appearance of people who for whatever reason, live in squalor and are looking for their handout.

    Do you seriously expect anyone (let alone someone in a position of power) to take your movement seriously and strive for the complex social and systematic change you are suggesting with these people as your voice?

    • idnami November 11, 2011 at 9:11 pm #

      I notice that while your words are almost entirely directed at a post other than this one you don’t post this directly as a comment on Nicole RunningRabbit’s article where she would be sure of seeing it.
      I would like to caution you against falling into the trap of allowing yourself to be distracted from the point by the first available excuse to disregard the whole message.That is what has been happening this entire time.
      I feel that all the nonsense (and it is nonsense as you will see if you stop by and take a look) of property damage and “filthy, disheveled people living in squalor” serves as a pretty poor justification for returning to the apathy that allows people to sleepwalk past the obvious. We refuse to sleepwalk and are trying to wake up others to what is right in front of them and have received a lot of contempt. We’ve also recieved a lot of support. The unions are behind us, a prominent entertainer is throwing a fundraiser for us. People such as Mark Carney, minister of the Bank of Canada and Joe Clark, CEO of TD bank even think Occupy Canada has a strong point, and they ought to know. We do live within a global system that is set up to keep YOU in debt and maintain the advantages of the few over the many. But go ahead and ignore that if it makes you more comfortable.
      I do have to point out that your criticism of Ms RunningRabbit complaining about a quality of life others have that she does not follows directly on the heels of your complaint of the opportunities to be found on the Siksika reserve that you do not receive.
      I feel I must ask, have you ever been on the res? Have you been to Olympic Plaza? Or are you sitting in the comfort of your nice, warm home judging people you have never met based on biases handed to you by others?
      What we have done to the first nations people does in fact amount to genocide. We killed most of them with smallpox, bullets and liquor and then rounded up the ones who were left and stuck them in reserves and residential schools, denied them the only way of life they knew and mocked them for not being able to adapt to white man’s ways, ways which they have every reason to find repugnant. Now we are poisoning their water and destroying their ancestral lands and congratulate ourselves for buying them off with a few tax breaks and shower them with contempt when they assert the truth. Read your history books. It’s disgusting. I as a white, third generation Canadian find it so, because I have taken the time to learn from these people and listen to them and see their claims verified by Canadian history. Our culture is racist as hell, and most of those people have no hope of the quality of life the rest of us have because they are judged by employers, landlords and banks as you have judged them.
      I would also like to point out that the handful of occupiers putting their asses and personal comfort on the line in the only way they know how to raise awareness of the way greed and apathy are destroying us are only a few of the many, vocal or silent, who are dedicated to this cause. I myself have never spent a night in that camp. I work hard to pay for my apartment and I sleep there. And between work and sleep I write and write and argue with our detractors and promote this blog every chance I get in the hope that someone with better ideas than I have will take notice and help us figure this thing out. And then the first chance someone sees to disregard my words and my work by their derision of the words or actions of another, they do it. Because it’s easier than caring.
      We don’t claim to be the best people for the job, we are just the only one who give a damn enough to do it. If really smart guys like you get on board maybe we will succeed?
      It’s up to you. It’s right in front of your face. Go do some reading and tell me I’m wrong.

      • idnami November 11, 2011 at 11:28 pm #

        What I forgot to mention in the above comment is this: The mandate of Occupied Calgary Free Press is to give each and every person who wants to speak up a voice that reaches many readers daily. Our site is averaging 800 hits per day at present and our widespread promotions are increasing that number daily. I do edit spelling and grammar in the posts I publish on behalf of the contributors who send them in, but every voice gets a chance to be heard. There are many well written posts on this site and I suggest reading several before judging the movement as a whole. Some of us may not be especially articulate but we are all standing up for what we deeply believe in. In the same interests of fairness and freedom of speech I have allowed some extremely offensive comments to stand despite my power to delete or even edit these comments. Agree or disagree with the opinions presented here, but understand that we are dedicated and committed to the changes each of us wants to see, and be, in the world.

      • larissa November 13, 2011 at 6:12 pm #

        on the subject of the so called genocide of native americans is this… we do not force them to live on reserves. they are free to leave and get jobs, buy houses, and become well functioning members of society. all land in the world has been taken over by someone and the excuse of “white man” taking their land and heritage is over used and is starting to sound pathetic. all it is is an excuse to not have to work or pay for thier own lives. there are hundreds of native americans not living in reserves, not taking money or tax breaks from the government, and not blaming everything on the people who came and took their land hundreds of years ago. they still respect thier culture and heritage while still being productive members of society. there is absolutely no reason that they should complain about the state of the reserves because they make them that way. i have been to reserves where there is garbage everywhere, no pride taken in the upkeep in their homes or yards, wild dogs running around starving because they are not being taken care of. the children are running wild with drugs and alcohol because they are not being taught that they should go to school and get jobs and take care of themselves instead of relying on the government to pay their way. if they dont like the reserves then move out and work real jobs earn real money and buy a real house and learn to take pride in themselves like the rest of canada had to. no body should get a free ride…

        • idnami November 13, 2011 at 9:10 pm #

          Ok. So if a fascist regime declared war on Canada and won and took all our resources for themselves and desecrated all we hold sacred and marginalized us and took your kids and stuck them in indoctrinating schools where they were raped and abused so a whole generation grew up baffled and traumatized would that be ok? And if less than a hundred years of broken treaties and government sanctioned racism later when we were still reeling from the sheer enormous loss, sickened by the poisoning of our water sources, thoroughly outraged and thoroughly powerless and defeated and holding together the barest scraps of cultural pride, if a descendant of the soldiers who shot your father and raped your mother said, “then move out and work real jobs earn real money and buy a real house and learn to take pride in themselves like the rest of Canada had to.” what would you say to that?
          Just sayin. We really fucked those people. Try not to rub salt into the wound.

    • idnami November 12, 2011 at 11:18 am #

      Some other reading you may find enlightening: http://winterpatriot.com/node/437

      • Anonymous November 14, 2011 at 8:07 am #

        So, I checked back to see if anyone responded to my original post; thank you for your reply.

        You completely missed what I was trying to tell you. My point was that your movement will go nowhere and piss off the people that you are actually trying to influence by your actions and statements. I actually read the blog on the link that you provided and OH MY GOD.

        I initially thought that you were a political activist but I was so wrong. You, my friend, are an extremist. Abolish money? Communal farms? Cap salaries and give the excess to the poor? Ask the Soviets, Chinese and former eastern European states how well these ideas worked for them.

        You are a socialist who is borderline communist. People should not only not take your movement seriously, they should be afraid of your ideas.

      • idnami November 14, 2011 at 12:39 pm #

        So I’m able to look the past in the face and entertain different ideas without judging them and that makes me an extremist? And your panicky overreaction to my words makes you what exactly?
        Sigh. Yes I am a big, scary activist. Run for your life! Never listen to anyone whose views differ from yours again! I hope you’ve learned your lesson.

    • Anonymous November 14, 2011 at 9:15 pm #

      Let me leave you with a few things to think about for my last contribution to this pointless dialogue:

      1) The world’s financial and political systems are not all one big conspiracy by “the man” to keep you down. For all the bad, you can’t deny the good.

      2) You have advised me to read my history books; I would advise you to do the same. The political and economic philosophies that you are promoting have been tried before with tragic results. Have a conversation with any Romanian, Czech, Pole or Ukrainian and they will tell you of the misery of living in a socialist state. We should learn from our mistakes, not repeat them. I wonder how Greece thinks its welfare state is working?

      The information that you have directed me to read speaks ad nauseum about oligarchs and the oligarchy that is Canada. I challenge you to give me an example of a socialist state in history where the people in power did not accumulate massive personal fortunes through corruption and deliberately witholding resources from the population.

      3) Yes. You are an extremist. Like all other extremists, you are focused on your ideas as the ultimate solution without considering the consequences of implmenting them. You also as an extremist use people who feel they have been wronged and are searching for an outlet to channel their anger towards to do your dirty work. You have said it yourself, you sleep in your apartment and have never spent a night down in Olympic Plaza.

      4) What am I? I am a realist who understands that what happened on Wall Street is in fact a crime and the same criminals are still in control of the worlds economy. Contrary to what you think, I am open to other ideas but have the technical and scientific knowledge to know that the ideas you are promoting are theroretically not possible and that they will technically and functionally not work. The technology and resources that would need to be financed, developed, implemented and maintained on the scale required to support your ideas would only be possible through one vehicle; corporations. Kind of ironic isn’t it?

      5) Here are examples of genocide: millions of Jews murdered in the Nazi concentration camps, the atrocities commited in the former Yugoslavia and Kosovo, the massacres in Rwanda, Sierra Leone and The Congo as well as what is currently happening in the Darfur region of the Sudan. The current plight of Canadian aboriginals is not genocide. Period.

      6) Have I learned my lesson? Absolutely. I made the decision to educate myself about what happened on Wall Street and am very angry that nobody has been held accountable. I also made the decision to educate myself about your movement because like majority of people, thought that you were advocating for change to our financial system(s) and for someone to be held accountable. Little did I know that you are promoting so much more in addition to this and are in fact, a movement advocating full fledged socialist reform. I have definately learned my lesson in that I will never again throw my support behind any political party, organization or movement without educating myself about their core values and agendas.

      • idnami November 15, 2011 at 3:32 pm #

        That is an awful lot of accusation to throw at one person.
        In your point #1 you state “The world’s financial and political systems are not all one big conspiracy by “the man” to keep you down. For all the bad, you can’t deny the good.”
        No one is denying the good. There is a lot of good. We are focused right now on creating public dialogue to help us figure out how to change the bad to good. In your point #4 you state ” I am a realist who understands that what happened on Wall Street is in fact a crime and the same criminals are still in control of the worlds economy.” So which is it? Are there remorseless criminals in direct control of the world economy or not? Are these people directly influencing government policy? Don’t use the word conspiracy if you don’t want to but these decisions are not being influenced by you and me and they do not reflect our interests.
        I would like to thank you for helping clarify at least one of the misconceptions people have of this movement; that it has a set agenda or any real idea how to actually correct these wrongs. We are tossing ideas around here. Some people involved actually do adhere to marxist or socialist ideas, some are decidedly anti capitalist. Others, like myself, see a monstrous problem at work in the world and don’t have the slightest idea what to actually do about it except push and push to open people’s eyes to it in the hope that someone out there DOES have the ideas that will work. My job in this movement is to create and maintain a space to facilitate public dialogue. I do not censor anyone who has a story to tell. You (I think it was you, its getting extremely confusing when half the posters are anonymous) fixated on the one you disagreed with most and used it to discredit the whole thing. The opinions stated in this blog do not necessarily reflect the position of everyone else in the movement.
        I have never spent a night at OP because the work I do on behalf of this movement could not be accomplished in a tent with no heat or electricity.
        I am not anti corporate, anti establishment or anti anything except maybe ignorance. No wait, let me amend that. I am anti greed. Greed, not money, not capitalism, not corporations. Greed is the root of every other thing we protest. Complicity, buying in, bowing down to the system that rewards greed far more than hard work is more than half the problem. I am not attacking corporations. I am fighting that complicity. I personally don’t care if you support “Occupy” or not. Occupy is nothing more that one vehicle to begin creating changes. And it is working. You can hate Occupy if you like and call us socialist extremists, filthy squatters, whatever. If you stand up against the injustices we fight, we support you. We are not in this for ourselves. I don’t spend hours at my computer every day because I think the 1% are going to give us all their money and I am going to get a cut. I do it because the world is going someplace very bad, very quickly and someone has to do something. I freely admit I don’t know everything but so far me and a few others like me are the only ones stepping up. You can help, if you want. Or you can justify the complicity and apathy allowing this to happen by focusing on MY flaws as a human being. If you have a good idea, send an article to the email address at the top of the screen and I will post it. This is to be everyone’s voice. Yours too. Ok?

      • drew peacock September 25, 2012 at 5:27 pm #

        Hail hail heil!!

        Nice come back.

        Why is montgomery triangle so awesome? I am new to this site

  16. Anonymous November 11, 2011 at 12:39 pm #

    High minded ideals are only as good as your plan to execute them, Democracy at it’s core values everyone equally, meaning the dull have just as much say as the bright. As long as we live in a democratic society, based around consumerism, PC Liberal propaganda,globalism and “multiculturalism”, corporations will always rule, because they can manipulate the weak and stupid, and those dull people will have just as much say as those who actually have a good plan to fix all these issues you mentioned. This is because the average person is not fit for choice in these matters( much like you wouldn’t allow some random person with no training do heart surgery on you, why would you have people who have no knowledge of politics have say in political decisions?), they just want to watch TV, work their job, and grow old until they have a fast food induced heart attack. Once you can look at the facts of the world, and learn to adapt to them, then the arbitrary bind of capitalism and ignorance can be broken, but democracy is the first thing that has to go. Create an aristocracy based on merit and natural ability, and allow nature to take it’s course on those who cannot adapt to reality. Liberalism and equality is what brought us to this mess, and allowed the clever people to warp the system for their own benefit.Wishful humanitarian thinking, and replacing the affirmation of reality with social constructs designed for the lowest common denominator will just lead us to more ruin.

  17. Anonymous November 9, 2011 at 8:07 pm #

    get a life people

    • TheCrimsonMavrick November 24, 2011 at 9:04 am #

      I would but it would be at the expence of the next generation. So, I make a stand and clearly state “no further” for this life that you speak of is nothing more that an ideal sold to you by those that do not have your best intrests in mind. All I ask is that you open your eyes and ask a few questions. Take Care.

  18. Anonymous November 6, 2011 at 6:50 am #

    The key for this movement to be successful is that there never be a single leader for it.

    • A dude November 19, 2011 at 3:43 am #

      It’s important to know how to name things. We begin learning this by learning the obviously cute names for our eyes and ears and nose and toes, and then progress to the dirty bits, the anatomical parts of current culture. It is also helpful to learn the difference between pictures in the tour-magazine, and the roadside you are standing on. The very big will always be very big, and a spider can’t make a bite like that, so it becomes necessary to conclude that it is a saber-tooth tiger suit with a couple of fools sticking out of it.

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